Commenting on a Republican's blog

>> Sunday, July 5, 2009

Speaking of commenting on a Republican's blog. I've noticed that most of the time I'm the only Democrat who leaves comments on post that I disagree with. Then all the Republican followers of that particular blog all start commenting on my comment with a condescending attitude. If 5 or 6 Republicans leave a argumentative comment to my comment, how am I suppose to a reply to all those arguments in one comment without writing a 1000 word comment. I don't have time for that, and I don't have the patience to put up with the criticism and put downs. I think this is the reason most Democrats don't leave comments on Republican blogs, because they already know that it's useless to try to make someone see your point of view if their mind is closed to opposing points of view. I've finally learned my lesson and will no longer leave comments on those Republican post that I disagree with. The Republicans agenda is much different than the Democrats agenda. The Republicans want to have smaller government to help the rich get richer and destroy the middle class and their willing to lie and use fear mongering to accomplish their goals. The Democrats want bigger government to give the middle class and poor a fairer playing field. I can only hope that most Americans continue to support Obama and the Democrats in our quest to make America a better place to live for all Americans, not just the rich.


Laane July 5, 2009 at 5:44 PM  

My experience resembles yours.
And I'm not even american.

aldon @ orient lodge July 6, 2009 at 6:31 PM  

I am a political blogger (at least partly), but I tend to avoid most political blogs. Too many of them merely echo the talking points of which ever side they are on, whether it be to the left or the right.

I do try to find blogs that seriously think about the issues and join in the discussions there when they seem to be about more than just beating up someone with a different opinion.

I guess the question that I'll ask you is why do you bother with most of those blogs? Do you think you can really change any minds? Is that what you are trying to do? Or, are you trying to learn something? Do something else?

lot 2 learn July 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM  

Never be afraid to speak your mind when it comes to something that will affect the rest of your life, but more importantly, be prepared to defend your view as well.
The more we disagree and debate over what we believe in, the more people will have to look at the facts for themselves and make their own decision.
Good luck to you my friend

Malcolm July 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM  

I'm sorry to hear that you won't be commenting on Republican blogs anymore. However, I understand your reasons. It does get frustrating when some of them post obvious lies (you've seen the taken out of context quotes that are supposed to prove that Barack Obama is a racist) and will either try to shout you down or ignore you when you present the facts. Although their foolishness can be maddening, I do make it a point to occasionally step in with some good old fashioned logic. Take care.

josie July 7, 2009 at 2:41 AM  

It's useless to give comment to people who don't want to listen, if you are watching the program "The VIEW",you will notice the same attitude with host(E)a self-proclaimed republican.

Empty Streets July 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM  

Dropping by to check out what is new to read over here :) Keep safe and healthy always :) xoxo

askcherlock July 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM  

As a Democrat I do try to comment on Right-wing blogs, if for no other reason than to give a voice to the other side. For me that's the fun in blogging. You can have a discussion, and sometimes (recently) I actually find that I agree with their position. Issues are not always cut and dry and there are times when we stangely meet in the middle.

John Kaduk July 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM  

I run a Conservative blog and my biggest commenter by far is a modern liberal. Needless to say he doesn't agree with me.

And by the way, small government isn't about destroying the middle class. Quite the opposite actually. If you read the federalist papers, anti-federalist collections, etc. from the founding fathers, limited government was their main goal.

Bob July 7, 2009 at 6:07 PM  

John, limited government and small government have two different meanings. Big government can be and is limited. and you're right small government isn't about destroying the middle class. The Republicans are about destroying the middle class even though there are middle class Republicans who don't think so.

Thanks to everyone for your encouraging words of support. I may comment on a conservatives blog in the future if I feel the need to correct someone's lie or misinformation.

Harrison July 7, 2009 at 6:38 PM  

How a government can be big and limited doesn't make sense.

Bob July 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM  

OK, let me explain it to you. I'm assuming you think we already have big government now. Limited means operating under restrictions, not having absolute power. So you see limited has nothing to do with size. If you think our government has no restrictions and is operating under absolute power, maybe you should go to China or Cuba and find out what absolute power with no restrictions really means.

Harrison July 7, 2009 at 11:15 PM  

Really? Cause when Bush was president I never heard that and I assumed I was living in a totalitarian police state because that's what everybody told me.

Bob July 8, 2009 at 6:48 AM  

yes really, never believe what you here and never assume because when you assume you make an ass out of u and me (ass/u/me).

Harrison July 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM  

I guess what the media reports in the US about Bush making us into a Nazi state were false. By the same token, I guess I shouldn't believe the same media that Obama is making the US into a Utopian state, either. Guess I'll just have to go with the facts again.

Bob July 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM  

It' always safe to go with the facts... I guess

MARC CHAMOT July 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM  

I just hope that you don't consider me a Republican Bob, do you? LOL I always welcome your posts. I'm pretty Liberal friendly I hope. LOL

Bob July 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM  

Marc Chamot, actually I'm not sure what side of the fence you are on or if your sitting on the fence. I like your blogs because you always state all the facts in your post without making up lies and false statements and never conveniently leave out facts that might go against your point of view like most Republican blogs I've seen.

Tellie July 8, 2009 at 4:12 PM  

Some people are stuck in their ways and won't budge at all. I don't understand why people are so against health care to everyone. I had a conversation with someone and they said:

Them: I'm not liking Obama's socialistic views. He wants health care for everyone!!
Me: And?? I don't understand what's so bad about that
Them: Well I don't want to have to pay for it!

I just don't understand a lot of republicans train of thinking.

John Kaduk July 8, 2009 at 5:11 PM  

A big and limited government can exist only in theory. Just like Karl Marx's true vision of communism can only exist in theory. A big government will always have access to too much power.

And when a President can fire a CEO and make decisions of life or death (through healthcare), that is hardly "limited" power.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."
- Thomas Jefferson

Harrison July 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM  

When you consider the percentage of people on waiting lists that have socialized medicine and how many people die waiting for the government to approve the drug or even that some people don't have MRI or other technologies in their town and need to travel far to find a hospital that has such machines it's not difficult to see.

Bob July 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM  

Harrison-Socialized medicine is a name Republicans have for giving equal health care to everyone. They make it sound bad, when in fact it is good. Do you think only those who can afford health care have the right to live? The government needs to wait to approve new medicines to make sure they are safe, maybe you would like to volunteer to be a lab rat to test these medicines, then they'll get approved quicker if they don't kill you first. That being said, It is really difficult to see your point.

Bob July 9, 2009 at 5:01 PM  

John Kaduk, I refer you to my post titled "A comment to my previous post"

Harrison July 9, 2009 at 10:44 PM  

As far as waiting for drugs to be approved (very typical case in the UK's socialized healthcare system):

News that Haringey cancer sufferers are waiting up to three months for appeals for medication has led to renewed demands for action by local Liberal Democrats. The revelation, unearthed in a recent survey by Macmillan Cancer Support, puts Haringey in the bottom four of 152 Trusts in England, with patients having to wait up to three months when appealing for the right to drugs that either haven’t been assessed by NICE, or deemed too expensive.

And as far as how US patients fair:

• Survival rates in the U.S. for common cancers are higher, and in some cases much higher, than in Europe and Canada.

• Americans have better access to treatment for chronic diseases than patients in other developed nations and spend less time waiting for care than Canadians and Britons.

• Americans have more access to new medical technologies than Canadians and United Kingdom residents, and are responsible for most health care innovations.

• Americans are more satisfied with their care than their counterparts in nations with socialized medicine.

MARC CHAMOT July 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM  

Thank you Bob, that was very nice of what you said. I took the liberty of posting your comment and your blog link on my blog. that you don't mind.

Thank you Bob

Bob July 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM  

Harrison, the reason Americans have more access to treatment of chronic diseases and medical technologies than other countries is because America is more technically advanced in all technologies, not because the way our health care system is set up. That's also why Americans are more satisfied than their counterparts in nations with so-called socialized medicine. Ask those Americans without any health care coverage if they are satisfied and I bet they'll say no. Again I'll remind you just like Obama keeps reminding everyone, Obama doesn't want the government to control our health care system, he merely wants to regulate it to reduce wasteful cost and guarantee healthcare for those who have no access to it. Those who already have health care can keep what they have.

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