The Republicans are on the attack again

>> Saturday, May 16, 2009

Here we go again. The Republicans are on the attack again. This time they are concentrating their attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, accusing her of lying about whether she was briefed by the CIA on waterboarding. Pelosi says she was misled. Who do you believe? I believe Pelosi because Bob Graham who was the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time had a similar briefing as Pelosie's by the CIA three weeks later and said “I do not have any recollection that day of there being a discussion of something that would have been as neon as waterboarding or other torture techniques,” Mr. Graham said. Newt Gingrinch said "I have never heard such a disgusting lie by a political official in my all my lifetime" Oh really Newt? What about the lies Bush and Cheney told about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq so Bush could start his war with Iraq? When they couldn't find any weapons of mass destruction, they tried to link Al Qaeda with Saddam Hussein, but they couldn't find any possible links so they started torturing some of the detainees in desperation to try and make someone admit to being linked to Al Qaeda. Unfortunately for Bush and Cheney it didn't work. Now they try to justify the torture by saying it gave them valuable information in the fight against terror. Another lie. Nancy Pelosi will survive this latest political attack by the Republicans as she has in the past.


babygirl May 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM  

there always going to have something negative to say.
the republicans will never admit to doing any wrong doing, blaming someone else is easier then admitting they were wrong.
for instance blaming a president that has only been in office for alittle over a 100 days for all the screw ups that are going on and not taking the time to admit it was my fault. yes i will admit im at fault, there are alot reasons why and the biggest question is can you admit it and after you do what can you do to change it? change is good and we should help do what we need to do to get back on track instead of sitting here and blaming the one person who really actually cares

Anonymous May 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM  

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about Pelosi is how she wanted to earmark a huge chunk of taxpayer funds for planned parenthood (and indirectly the abortion industry) and I'm glad this never came to pass, but it doesn't speak well about her agenda.

Harrison May 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM  

The flaw in your logic is that the Republicans never made "torture" an issue, it was the Democrats who did. They simply brought this on themselves and now are in a circular firing squad. Ah, the sweet irony.

Bob May 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM  

Harrison: There is no flaw in my logic. The Republicans advocated torture, not the Democrats. The Democrats brought nothing on themselves because Pelosi did nothing wrong and nothing will come of the Republican rants. The flaw in your logic is you think Pelosi did something wrong, but you are wrong. Sorry but there is no sweet irony for you to gloat over.

MARC CHAMOT May 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM  

You had me in mind eh Bob? Lol..It's great that we all can share our differences in opinions. Especially all three of us who live in the SF Bay Area and who do know the truths about Lady NP.

askcherlock May 18, 2009 at 2:40 PM  

I have never been a Pelosi fan and I do think she needs to come clean about the what she knew and when she knew it. We really can handle the truth. The Democrats indeed did not advocate torture and that was one of many reasons we voted for Obama. It is inconceivable that the United States would practice such horrific things as waterboarding and then tell the world that democracy is the best alternative. Hypocrisy.

Harrison May 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM  

Yeah it is a democracy and a majority of Americans approve.

Bob... I think you didn't post my earlier comment.

Six in ten people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday believe that some of the procedures, such as water boarding, were a form of torture, with 36 percent disagreeing.

But half the public approves of the Bush administration's decision to use of those techniques during the questioning of suspected terrorists, with 50 percent in approval and 46 percent opposed.

Bob May 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM  

Harrison: I didn't approve your previous comment because you basically repeated what you said the first time. As for your last comment, policies and laws are not made by a poll that some organization conducts. Congress and the president are responsible for that. Just because 50 percent of the people polled said they approve of the Bush administration's torture techniques, doesn't make it legal or justified.

Harrison May 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM  

The poll response was in reply to the "we're a democracy how hypocritical." Under this line of thinking, doing what the public doesn't want is wrong. You make the opposite point that doing what the public wants doesn't make it right.

Bob May 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM  

No, my point is that, what some corporation comes up with in a poll doesn't mean it is accurate.If you want an accurate poll, you have United States, not just certain areas that might tend to be more conservative than others. You can't establish what the public wants with a poll that was conducted by a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation.

Bob May 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM  

correction: If you want an accurate poll, you have to poll the entire United States, not just certain areas the might tend to be more conservative than others.

Harrison May 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM  

By your definition then you could never have a poll! Somehow, I think this is somewhat faulty logic.

Bob May 18, 2009 at 9:21 PM  

You don't get it, do you? Taking polls can be helpful to find out what the general population is thinking if there accurate and honest, BUT. If the poll is taken by a group or corporation that wants to sway the poll votes to there belief, then polls are not very helpful and not very believable. If that is faulty logic, then you're illogical.

Harrison May 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM  

I wasn't talking about biased polls.

Bob May 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM  

I was, and it's possible CNN is biased.

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Gendel May 23, 2009 at 1:30 PM  

Hi Bob. First time here. Hm. This is the thing I love most from American politics and politicians. They're always attacking the other side, always have something to not agree upon, always have a lie to tell, where each side has its own devoted believers/followers. I'm not being sarcastic here, being from abroad, I really envy the atmosphere and the dynamics of American democracy. But I agree with you. What Gingrich said is lame indeed...

CJPR May 23, 2009 at 11:18 PM  

Liars, Scoundrels and Fools
Anyone who claims that Nancy Pelosi is lying about what happened at her 2002 briefing by the CIA has got to be a liar, a scoundrel, and a fool. As of today, the members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, who have seen all the evidence and read all the notes, cannot agree on who said what to whom at those briefings. If our Senators and Congressmen, who have seen more complete information than anyone else, do not have a clear picture of what happened at those meetings, then how can anyone else possibly say definitively who is lying and who isn't. Those people who say they know for a fact that Nancy Pelosi is lying must by definition be liars, scoundrels and fools. And, those who believe them, and are swallowing all of their malarkey whole, are even worse. Those people have their noses up the rear ends of liars, scoundrels and fools.

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